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« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2012, 09:31:37 am » |
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Talking Points Memo is a 501c too.
Really? A left leaning blog is now considered a 501c? I smell another lie brewing... |
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« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2012, 07:15:44 pm » |
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Really? A left leaning blog is now considered a 501c?
I smell another lie brewing...
Really? How are they organized then? |
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« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2012, 07:25:59 pm » |
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amazing.. when proven wrong, you just resort to changing your argument and pretending that was your argument from jump..
sorry, your argument was ""Gingrich is for mandates but he's not representative on that issue. "
after having it pointed out to you that you were oh so wrong, you've decided your argument is now.."I had already said there hadn't been Republican support for an individual mandate since 1994,"
I think it's fair to say you lied about that.
And you are incorrect. The GOP wasn't for mandates, then suddenly Obama got behind them and the Republicans tossed it overboard. Gingrich is for mandates, but he's not representative on that issue. When were Republicans supporting a mandate last? 1994? The idea that Republicans supported mandates until Obama got behind them is ridiculous. Really going off the rails there...
I didn't add that later. That was part of my original statement. Now, did you just mess up, make a mistake and thought I added that comment later, or are you purposely lying about it? even still, you were proven wrong with the 2 introductions of the Wyden bill, which did have a mandate as explained..and most importantly did have GOP support..
That is not a 'tax'.. that is a penalty for not getting insured, no different from Obama's 'mandate'...
Odd that you are calling the Wyden bill a 'tax' but you argue Obama's same 'mandate' isn't.. just more proof that you're hyper-partisan and hypocritical..
and BTW, the wydenn bill did have GOP support both times it was intro'd as shown.. my position,which has never changed, was also correct.. the GOP liked the mandate until Obama, and that was proven by the bills listed that had GOP support up until Obama used it and then no GOP support..
as for the site, can you prove it's biased? then who cares if it holds the same status and TP.. the definition of a 501 (c)(3) is
who gives a shit..all that means is it has tax-exemptions... none of that proves hyper-partisan.. you just don't like the site because it proves your original argument and this new one, wrong... well, too bad.. facts hurt like that.
you will get no apology since you haven't been proven correct on any argument you've made.. your points have been weighed,measured and found lacking...whether that be the original one that you've now back away from since you found yourself in error, or the second one you've now adopted in some desperate attempt to get some points for knowing something about this issue..
The CBO said it was a tax. Payment for minimum coverage - Universal coverage is partially
enforced through a requirement that payment for the lowest-cost
premium is part of an individual’s tax liability, and withholding tables
are adjusted to reflect this liability, except that certain low-income
individuals are eligible for premium assistance. http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/91xx/doc9184/05-01-HealthCare-Letter.pdfSo as far as me being correct and you being incorrect, and let me add deceitful this time, third time's the charm. So are you ready to apoligize? |
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« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2012, 09:49:28 pm » |
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ahhhh, that explains it.. |
Facts are the center. We don’t pretend that certain facts are in dispute to give the appearance of fairness to people who don’t believe them. Balance is irrelevant to me. It doesn’t have anything to do with truth, logic or reality. ~Charlie Skinner (the Newsroom)
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« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2012, 11:55:11 am » |
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Really? How are they organized then?
You tell me. You're the one making the claim that TPM is a 501c. |
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« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2012, 07:19:23 pm » |
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You tell me. You're the one making the claim that TPM is a 501c.
Yes but aren't you the one thinking it's a lie? Really? A left leaning blog is now considered a 501c?
I smell another lie brewing...
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« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2012, 07:21:44 pm » |
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Yes but aren't you the one thinking it's a lie?
Until you prove it's a 501c it's just another lie...pretty much par for the course, though.  |
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« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2012, 06:44:45 pm » |
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Until you prove it's a 501c it's just another lie...pretty much par for the course, though. Three whole days and no reply...  |
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« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2012, 07:12:48 pm » |
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Three whole days and no reply... I was going to let this simmer for a while. |
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« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2012, 07:14:42 pm » |
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I was going to let this simmer for a while.
Is that lilMike speak for "I lied"? |
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« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2012, 12:13:36 pm » |
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Until you prove it's a 501c it's just another lie...pretty much par for the course, though. Another three days...still waiting! |
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« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2012, 08:17:18 pm » |
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Is that lilMike speak for "I lied"?
Nope! I was waiting for you to proffer a wager of some sort. |
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« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2012, 08:29:59 pm » |
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Nope!
I was waiting for you to proffer a wager of some sort.
Is that lilMike speak for "I lied"?
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« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2012, 01:42:09 pm » |
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Nope!
I was waiting for you to proffer a wager of some sort.
so is this the lesson then, say whatever you want, whether true or not, get asked about it, piddle around hoping they forgot, piddle around some more hoping they forgot and then say you'll tell the answer to their question on you facts if, and only if they will wager something first.. you made a statement of fact. you used that statement of fact to try and deflect from a website that you didn't like since it proved you wrong..you called that website "Hyper Partisan" because it's either that or you're wrong..so how can it be anything else  ... you are now asked to back up your statement of fact. Either TPM is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit public charity like ProCon.org is or you owe me an apology.. there is no 'what will you give me if I tell you' here.. you made the statement, it's on you to back it up... not me or Howie to entice you into proving what you said.. Jesus Christ, grow the hell up already... if your wrong say so.. who gives a shit. You're not God, you do err. |
Facts are the center. We don’t pretend that certain facts are in dispute to give the appearance of fairness to people who don’t believe them. Balance is irrelevant to me. It doesn’t have anything to do with truth, logic or reality. ~Charlie Skinner (the Newsroom)
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« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2012, 01:53:03 pm » |
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so is this the lesson then, say whatever you want, whether true or not, get asked about it, piddle around hoping they forgot, piddle around some more hoping they forgot and then say you'll tell the answer to their question on you facts if, and only if they will wager something first.. you made a statement of fact. you used that statement of fact to try and deflect from a website that you didn't like since it proved you wrong..you called that website "Hyper Partisan" because it's either that or you're wrong..so how can it be anything else ... you are now asked to back up your statement of fact. Either TPM is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit public charity like ProCon.org is or you owe me an apology.. there is no 'what will you give me if I tell you' here.. you made the statement, it's on you to back it up... not me or Howie to entice you into proving what you said.. Jesus Christ, grow the hell up already... if your wrong say so.. who gives a shit. You're not God, you do err. I don't know how Pro-Con got dragged into this. Its nonprofit, nonpartisan and used by everyone. |
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