what? where did Howie bring up charitable donations?
Romney earned it? By firing people. I respect Heinz because, unlike Mittens, she recognizes what the word
compassion is.
Do you really think Romney wouldn't have given the Mormon church all those millions if he didn't
have to? Of course, he could have wanted to in support of their homophobia campaign.
you made this line of talk your issue with your
"You don't know the history of the 2008 election very well. Hillary was for the individual mandate and Obama opposed it. Obama only signed on after Congress wrote the bill for him. Are you getting more ill informed as time goes on? You were on top of these issues in 2008."
CLASS act? Puhleeze! you didn't bring that up for quite a few posts after your non-relavant post above.. you had no intention of anything other than starting shit, you had no intentions of starting a conversation with that.. so it's hilarious that you would accuse me being unable to talk policy when you're the one throwing shit in the room and laughing about it.. you are the one can never,ever 'take it' when it's dished to you..
here are those rails.. hold on..
that's more than just Newt right there.. That's a lot more.. in fact, that last one was the GOP's universal healthcare bill
Holy shit would you look at that.. Uni Healthcare a GOP idea... well, until Obama wanted it.
all the way up until Obama
No republican's then..
so how in the hell am I incorrect,ridiculous or going off the rails?
answer? I'm not... you forgot to look into the issue and it shows with your inaccurate ranting..
also, when I said "The individual mandate was around before Hillarycare, it was what the GOP was going to 'counter' her idea with.. "
I was correct there also..
rant would seem to suggest that I was wrong... clearly, I wasn't..
care to apologize now?
bone up on your facts next time...
I'll allow you to bone up on your facts I think!
First, I had already said that Republicans as a party hadn't supported the individual mandate since 1994, so I'm not sure why you brought up examples earlier than that, other than to confirm I was correct.
OK, I was correct. I agree with you!
Now the real "meat" of your post was The Healthy Americans Act. I was scratching my head, thinking I should have heard of such a bill before, so I googled the name...ahhh it was Wyden-Bennett! I had actually brought this up during our Obamacare discussions! It was an alternative to Obamacare. I opposed it too, but at least it didn't' have the private market destroying features of Obamacare. But it also didn't have an individual mandate, it had a tax for premiums, like the Medicare part of FICA. So although I oppose this too, it's not unconstitutional like the Obamacare individual mandate is since it doesn't run afoul of the Commerce clause.
Now you know, or used to know, what the individual mandate is, but either you've forgotten or just thought you could bluff me with your hyper partisan website you pulled this info from.
So if you are sincere, you will apologize to me since you got your facts wrong.
