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« on: February 10, 2012, 08:09:26 pm »

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/assad-forces-mull-use-of-chemical-weapons-in-homs-opposition-says-1.411954

Assad forces mull use of chemical weapons in Homs, opposition says

Opposition figures claim government stockpiling chemical weapons and distributing gas masks to soldiers near Homs; 130 people reportedly killed on Thursday as government intensifies crackdown.

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2012, 08:23:32 pm »

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/assad-forces-mull-use-of-chemical-weapons-in-homs-opposition-says-1.411954

Assad forces mull use of chemical weapons in Homs, opposition says

Opposition figures claim government stockpiling chemical weapons and distributing gas masks to soldiers near Homs; 130 people reportedly killed on Thursday as government intensifies crackdown.



Sobyou want Obama to do something? That went over real goood with Libya, didn't it?
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2012, 09:14:15 pm »

Sobyou want Obama to do something? That went over real goood with Libya, didn't it?

it doesn't matter what Obama does, Mike and the gOP will balk..

Russia and China fucked things up with their veto and now we have to hope Turkey and Saudi Arabia step up..
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2012, 07:10:15 pm »

Sobyou want Obama to do something? That went over real goood with Libya, didn't it?


As for Syria, we already know what the Syrians will do.  They’ve massacred before, and so far in this latest rebellion it looks like they’ve racked up a bigger body count than the Libyans.



Syria, along with Iran, is where we should have been supporting the opposition all along.
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2012, 07:34:53 pm »

Syria, along with Iran, is where we should have been supporting the opposition all along.

Tell that to John McCain:

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Sen. John McCain says the United States should find ways to help the Syrian people under siege from President Bashar Assad, without putting American "boots on the ground."

McCain tells "CBS This Morning" there are several options available, ranging from medical care and technical assistance to safe havens for refugees of the violence.

McCain says Washington "should play a very important role, along with other nations." He says the Syrian government is killing its own people, and it's an international outrage.

The Arizona Republican says he wouldn't send NATO troops into Syria, but says "it's time we acted on behalf of the people who are being slaughtered." McCain, who lost the presidential election to Barack Obama four years ago, is the senior Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

But, you don't care. You're hoping an incursion in Syria will lead to bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. I can see millions of neo-cons creaming in their jeans right now, so go wipe yourself off.
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2012, 09:45:24 pm »

Syria, along with Iran, is where we should have been supporting the opposition all along.

why? so then you could have said "Libya and Egypt is where we should have been supporting the opposition all along"

you may just get your wish.. as soon as we figure out how to arm the rebels... and well, when the rebels can get a little more organized.

Iran is a tough call.. we've been saying for many many years we should intervene.. and we have.. our CIA has even overthrown their leaders.. and yet, they're still a problem. and because of our history of intervention, we can't really be the main force in this one..our involvement waters down a true 'grass-roots' uprising.. it makes it seem like it's been us all along, when it has really been them...
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2012, 08:56:34 am »

why? so then you could have said "Libya and Egypt is where we should have been supporting the opposition all along"

you may just get your wish.. as soon as we figure out how to arm the rebels... and well, when the rebels can get a little more organized.

Iran is a tough call.. we've been saying for many many years we should intervene.. and we have.. our CIA has even overthrown their leaders.. and yet, they're still a problem. and because of our history of intervention, we can't really be the main force in this one..our involvement waters down a true 'grass-roots' uprising.. it makes it seem like it's been us all along, when it has really been them...

When it turns out the administration has been quietly working behind the scenes, diplomatically and militarily (Go Seal Team 6!), and we see a change in regime in Syria (and hopefully Iran), he'll be the first in line - along with Congress - screaming "He didn't ask permission!"

Then there will be mumblings of impeachment and violations of the Constitution...
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2012, 07:25:19 pm »

When it turns out the administration has been quietly working behind the scenes, diplomatically and militarily (Go Seal Team 6!), and we see a change in regime in Syria (and hopefully Iran), he'll be the first in line - along with Congress - screaming "He didn't ask permission!"

Then there will be mumblings of impeachment and violations of the Constitution...

I hope the administration is working behind the scenes.  However based on recent history, they may be waiting on the UN and France to tell them what to do though.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2012, 07:29:52 pm »

based on recent history

I hear ya...it took four phone calls from DeGaulle to get Obama to do something about bin Laden.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2012, 07:33:34 pm »

I hear ya...it took four phone calls from DeGaulle to get Obama to do something about bin Laden.  Roll Eyes

DeGaulle?  I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on this one... Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2012, 07:44:14 pm »

DeGaulle?  I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on this one... Cheesy

It's called sarcasm, dumbfuck.

Incredible that you would actually try to downplay Obama's successes on foreign policy when every free nation in the world hated youknowwho.

ekg's right. That black man can do no right in your lilWorld...
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2012, 06:25:38 pm »

It's called sarcasm, dumbfuck.

Incredible that you would actually try to downplay Obama's successes on foreign policy when every free nation in the world hated youknowwho.

ekg's right. That black man can do no right in your lilWorld...

Of course that's what you see...
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2012, 06:46:40 pm »

Of course that's what you see...

Tell me: What black man has done right in your world? I'll make it harder and leave out the three or four black Republicans, and Condi.

What Democrat black man has done right in your world?
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