So I'm laying here watching MSNBC and they just said that when KSM was asked about the courier's name he indicated he didn't know who the guy was and brushed it off.
That convinced the CIA he was important.
No waterboarding involved...
Yeah, I heard something similar last night, that among many other things that proved false, he gave up a 'nickname' of the guy but had no other info on him.. another guy, a few years later mentioned that same nickname and they got a 'hunch' to start trying to find this guy.. which they did, on accident, it just went from there..
by no means should this be taken as if I don't have mad respect for the intel guys who followed and linked it all together.. I think that's just bad-ass.. but it doesn't look like KSM needed to be tortured to give up this nickname...
I watched Hannity last night and he asked every 'guest' the same cpl questions..in essence "Don't you think Bush's intense interrogation policy is now vindicated" and "Should Obama have buried this guy? Was he too PC?"
1st.. he was like a dude with a hard-on waiting for his 'money shot' to finish his jerk session too.. he started with Giuliani, who did give him a rub here and there on his answers.. But then he asked Tommy Franks, Franks would only say that RE the torture, (not that America should ever torture anyone) That the president needs to be able to make the decision on it and then be held accountable for his decision.. (side note, halleluiah, That's been my position all along and I'm happy I share it with Tommy Franks! No! we don't torture as a policy, but in a Jack Bauer scenario, do what you have to do and stand behind it, out in the open, and don't hide behind some bullshit lawyer's free-pass. If you're going to use it, be ready to stand up and defend that use.. we'll back you up if the scenario was that drastic..But pull out your dick and piss on us while we're watching and then try to tell us it's really raining? well fuck you, now you're gonna get called on it)... anyway, Franks then answered that he was satisfied that OBL was buried at sea.. end of story and Hannity moved on to his 'panel of Americans' and that's when he got his money shot and not only could you see it building up in him, the need to have someone, anyone validate his accusations... but you could hear it when it happened..
yes, the father and sister of 9/11 victims don't approve of Obama and they gave Hannity everything he wanted and then some.. it was the creepiest thing I'd ever seen.. watching him try to get that bait taken, but not being able to get an actual nibble.. and the finally, he hooked a big ones... family members of 9/11 victims.. and my oh my, was he satisfied to get that pump-job out of the way..
my question is.. why? Why in the hell is there this need to still shit on this president, to take him down a peg, to question him and force him to take sole credit for a crisis and then take away credit for an accomplishment? Why this compulsion to say "Oh I think he deserves credit
BUT...." why the need for the "BUT"? How about a Thank you, and move on?