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« Reply #60 on: May 05, 2011, 11:08:23 am »

Here is what's interesting to me, this was the post that you said was just references to Bush:

First, remember what I was replying to.  wrongo's post congratulating the intel folks involved in putting all the pieces together to find his location.  I have a special fondness for those much maligned folks, since their job is to describe a picture of a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle with maybe 20 pieces.  And based on the newspaper and TV reporting for that day, that was the intell timeline.  Still is as far as I know.

So for you to look at that and see Bush Bush and more Bush... well I dunno.  I mean, sure I'm partisan, but you are some kind of uberpartisan.  You can't even look at a post like that and not see a veiled partisan agenda.  Sure, I could tell you there wasn't one but you would never believe it because you know if the situation was reversed, you would have a partisan agenda.

And as this thread shows, you did.



no, as that muche post and the 2 other posts of yours on here shows.. you wanted to make it partsian. You wanted to point to Bush, not Obama.. or, not just Obama..

why do I think that?

easy... I've been doing this with you long enough to know your tricks.. It's the pass/agress thing I've always accused of..had your goal been solely to thank the intel world, then why didn't you mention the intel gathered in 2009? and the other intel gathered in 2010? or the 5 security briefing in 2011 going over the intel that led up to the raid?  you knew about them also...


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And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against Al-Qaeda, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network.

"Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice

you left off the 2008,2010 intel accomplishments... and that information was just from Obama's speech.. I know you watched more than that on Sunday night  and heard even more throughout the day on Monday until you posted that night on muche, so you had to have heard about the phone call being tapped in 2010 that finally found this guy..and the following of him to the compound and the intel acquired after all of that..if not more of the intel successes..

see, if your intention weren't to bring Bush up in a veiled way that you could later deny was your intent, you could easily have said...

"Indeed.  It was an amazing job of putting the pieces together stretching across  years.  Starting with getting the courier's nickname through our interrogation of prisoners in 2004, to connecting that nickname to a real name in 2007, to finding the guy in 2010 and tracking him down to that compound.  From there, discovering Bin Ladin's courier lives in a compound with no phone or internet?"

or even more simply " It was an amazing job of putting the pieces together stretching across  years.  Starting in 2004 and ending in 2011"

that would have really encompassed the entirety of the intelligence world wouldn't it?... but you specifically left off any date that could be drawn back to this president, while being very explicit in your date range to only include the timeline of GWB..

talk about maligning the intel world. you left off 4 years.. 2 of which, under this current administration that were the coup de grace that sealed OBL's fate  

now that I re-read this.. it's really quite astonishing the level you went to to eliminate any reference to OBama.. you claim it wasn't intentional, so its even more interesting that your subconscious is this partsian without you even knowing it...

maybe you should have the looked at..


But... I've done with this with you for yeaaarrrrss.. and this is something you are notorious at doing. This 'veil'  you use in your triumphs,critique,POV,opinions,guesses.. etc.. you are expert at the 'saying without saying' so that if you are called on it, you deny any thing of the sort.  You never say anything without having a way out of it. That's been you and will always be you. And that's what you did here..

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