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May 24, 2011, 12:04:51 pm »
A funny and scary article...
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/florida-cracks-down-on-democracy/1171071
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At first I thought this crackdown on democracy in Florida, signed Thursday by Gov. Rick Scott, was mostly about Republicans sticking it to Democrats.
But after being flooded with some of the angriest e-mail ever, I see it's about more than that.
It's also about the certainty that Bad People (drug addicts, drunks, terrorists, welfare queens, illegal immigrants and, of course, liberals) have hijacked our democracy and they Must Be Stopped.
These Bad People are stuffing the ballot box willy-nilly. They pick up bums and illegals on the street, load them onto buses and take them to the polls, where corrupt and/or incompetent election workers let them vote on the spot.
This is the only way that Barack Hussein Obama could have been elected in 2008.
As one of my new e-mail friends explained to me, word for word:
When an organizer can pick up individuals, buy them whatever, take them to the polls and they are allowed to vote. Throw in motor voter and club wielding gaurds that are ignored by authorities. What we have is a cabal of thugs running the country with doctorates from the University of Chicago in thuggery and voter fraud.
It might occur to you that Republicans actually won the last election for governor in Florida.
In fact, Republicans won every statewide race in 2010, and won a two-thirds majority in the Legislature.
No matter. The state is rife with liberal voter fraud.
Something Must Be Done.
That's why the 2011 Legislature passed House Bill 1355, which the governor signed last week because he, too, is concerned about "fraud."
First, our new law cracks down on voting by Floridians who move from one county to another. (Critics say the idea is that the more mobile the population, the more likely it is to be Democratic — renters, the poor, college students and so forth.)
These suspicious types cannot cast a regular ballot on Election Day unless they have notified the elections office in advance of their change of address. Otherwise they must vote a "provisional" ballot — one that requires extra steps to cast, and extra steps to be counted.
I was amazed at the venom of my mail on this point. The self-righteousness, the rage — directed against what? Against people who move?
Liberals and democrats rant and rave when anyone wants to equalize the voters rights. For over forty years moving or changing a name, meant simply to updated your information on Election Day. Of course it meant no one could challage your vote, so you could hop around to any polling place, all without the dreaded act of respondability, the Word that liberals and Democrats fear the most, it means they have to do something, and its not free, or at someone elses expense. Yet today we want people to take the step towards respondable personal acts, as american have been freeloading for too long. So to you Mr. Troxler, I want the Governor to ink this Bill and let get back to one vote per citizen. Just like are fore fathers wrote it.
Next, the law cracks down on groups that try to … to … get people to register to vote.
Did you ever see Annie Hall? The scene where Woody Allen is eating dinner with Diane Keaton's family, and they are picturing him dressed in full, orthodox Jewish attire?
Same principle here. I see the League of Women Voters signing up American citizens to vote at the public library. But the Legislature sees ACORN workers dressed in pimp suits, handing out cocaine and bribes.
Third, our new law cuts back on the number of days early voting is allowed. (It permits the same total number of hours of early voting, over one week instead of two.)
Last, this law makes it much harder for citizens to use the right of petition to amend the Constitution.
From now on, if a Floridian signs a petition, his or her signature expires in two years. Any group trying to get on the ballot will have a single election cycle to do it — if not impossible, then difficult.
So, in sum:
Throw up roadblocks at the polls.
Discourage voter registration.
Cut back early voting.
Shut down citizen petitions.
That'll show them.
Whoever "them" is, exactly.
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May 24, 2011, 12:44:12 pm »
I was unaware of rampant voter fraud in the state, or abroad. You'd think something like that would sort of make the news on a very large scale...even if the "liberal media" did their darnedest to manipulate and bury the story.
It's good to know that underground rumor mill and conspiratorial reasoning has enough clout to be taken seriously...to actually change or enact laws accordingly.
This reminds me of playing War with one of my childhood buds...who didn't like getting blasted and taken out all the time because he sucked at the game. So after one particular round, he started changing the rules, so his chances at survival got higher and higher. This continued on until he was practically invulnerable.
So yea, we eventually stopped playing War with him. Matter as fact...we stopped playing with him altogether after a period of time because he made a habit of changing the rules regardless of what game we were playing, because he couldn't handle losing...and when he did lose...it wasn't because he was outplayed...it was because the rest of us HAD to be cheating...so in his mind, changing the rules just leveled the playing field against cheaters.
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These suspicious types cannot cast a regular ballot on Election Day
crazy
There were quite a few mainstream stories about possible voter fraud in every election since 2000. They went away fast. Going backwards from Obama and the acorn allegations to voting machine fraud in '04 to the entire process being thrown out in 2000. I'm not agreeing with any of it right or left or saying that it really happened, just that there were some smoking guns, such as a large portion of out of the country ballots thrown out in FL under questionable technicalities.(in 2000)
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That petition bill might come back to bite them in the ass on the next anti-gay agenda drive...
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Quote from: clc on May 24, 2011, 02:37:11 pm
That petition bill might come back to bite them in the ass on the next anti-gay agenda drive...
That's ok. The Governor's stockpiled the
state
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The Florida House of Representatives will cast their first vote to change the structure of the Florida Supreme Court.
Why? Because some powerful GOP leaders resent the court for putting the public’s interest ahead of their own political agenda. They’re trying to change the rules by adding three new justices – all handpicked by their buddy, Gov. Rick Scott.
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It's also about the certainty that Bad People (drug addicts, drunks, terrorists, welfare queens, illegal immigrants and, of course, liberals) have hijacked our democracy and they Must Be Stopped.
These Bad People are stuffing the ballot box willy-nilly. They pick up bums and illegals on the street, load them onto buses and take them to the polls, where corrupt and/or incompetent election workers let them vote on the spot.
This is the only way that Barack Hussein Obama could have been elected in 2008.
That pretty much explains it all doesn't it? I mean, if there was any doubt left, then this would erase it.
There is a level of hate and fear in this country that is going to bring about a change so drastic that in 25 years we literally will resemble some Orwellian novel. One party is all-consumed with nothing but fear and hate. Race,sexual orientation, choice.... they can't stand it.. can't stand to think about it, can't stand that someone else would want to live that way, can't stand that someone would ever choose that option... so they will try and do everything they can to make it disappear from
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But because they can only hate and fear they will never be satisfied. The next person will hate and fear more and so on until it's too late and they have taken away the last vestige of what made us the United States.
we had a Governor in another state the other day stand up and say(paraphrasing of course))
"We here in this state, we don't want the kind of healthcare they have in that northern yankee state"
.. That northern yankee state is number 2 in the country when it comes to healthcare.. 98% coverage... the state who doesn't want to be like them? Ranked 44.... people cheered and hoooorah'd that idiot governor. They'll cast more votes in favor of that governor.. they'll die younger, have more disease, more sickness, live less health lives.. but their hate and fear will be satiated..
I can't imagine a more smug and dangerous party right now than the GOP... They haven't always been this dangerous and I'm sure they won't be in he future.. but right now, because they collectively lost their fucking minds on election day 2008, they are as dangerous to this country as a lone gunman with a nuke-suicide bomb.
I keep hoping, when I read these stories, that when it gets back to (D) control...we'll undo all this shit.. but we won't. Look at the Pat Act, it's easier to let it ride than it is to end it.. it will be the same with all these new 'hate and fear' laws that seem to be the only agenda getting through.
oh well, I guess it's all just pay back.. we should have elected the woman.... atleast she was white..
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Quote from: ekg on May 24, 2011, 03:26:09 pm
oh well, I guess it's all just pay back.. we should have elected the woman.... atleast she was white..
But is she part-Irish??
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Quote from: ekg on May 24, 2011, 03:26:09 pm
But because they can only hate and fear they will never be satisfied. The next person will hate and fear more and so on until it's too late and they have taken away the last vestige of what made us the United States.
I can't imagine a more smug and dangerous party right now than the GOP... They haven't always been this dangerous and I'm sure they won't be in he future.. but right now, because they collectively lost their fucking minds on election day 2008, they are as dangerous to this country as a lone gunman with a nuke-suicide bomb.
Isn't also strange that the bible thumping crowd of the GOP are the biggest promoters of lowest common denominator hate. I'm sure it's justified in their heads as righteous since you can "prove anything" from the bible. I know that not all people who call themselves christians are gay bashing, racist chit but you never seem to hear voices of reason. Does anyone, I wonder, ever say or make the point that Jesus had a lot of things to say about hypocrisy and how we should treat one another when these pubs are doing their thing.
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