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« on: June 13, 2011, 08:47:43 pm »



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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2011, 08:52:10 pm »


One current example is the congress show on Libya. If they had any balls they would use their emergency powers if they still have any, to halt the aggression now. I believe instead that's it's purely posturing and theater.
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2011, 09:36:51 am »

Can you explain, please?     
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2011, 01:18:32 pm »

Can you explain, please?     

I'm saying that if the people like us who are limited by the two party system could encourage enough bipartisanship outside of existing labels;congress needs to get the message that being on one side or the other on an issue doesn't count anymore because nothing changes the drums of war. It's like with the budget stuff, it's about like professional wrestling with the outcome predetermined before the wrangling.

In other words if senators x,y and z really wanted to do something about Libya(it was bipartisan)they would and could. Anything else is unadulterated bullshit.
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2011, 03:25:00 pm »

I'm saying that if the people like us who are limited by the two party system could encourage enough bipartisanship outside of existing labels;congress needs to get the message that being on one side or the other on an issue doesn't count anymore because nothing changes the drums of war. It's like with the budget stuff, it's about like professional wrestling with the outcome predetermined before the wrangling.

In other words if senators x,y and z really wanted to do something about Libya(it was bipartisan)they would and could. Anything else is unadulterated bullshit.

ahhhh....I see.

Unfortunately (or fortunately) one of the byproducts of our political system is posturing.

Right now our political system is experiencing the effects of an extremist agenda that supports intransigence instead of compromise. Hopefully this will pass and our government can go back to it's roots of being by and for the people.

Edited to include: As far as the situation in Libya, the support our country is providing the people of Libya is no different that the support provided to other countries suffering under an extreme regime through the annals of diplomacy.

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One current example is the congress show on Libya. If they had any balls they would use their emergency powers if they still have any, to halt the aggression now. I believe instead that's it's purely posturing and theater.


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I'm saying that if the people like us who are limited by the two party system could encourage enough bipartisanship outside of existing labels;congress needs to get the message that being on one side or the other on an issue doesn't count anymore because nothing changes the drums of war. It's like with the budget stuff, it's about like professional wrestling with the outcome predetermined before the wrangling.

In other words if senators x,y and z really wanted to do something about Libya(it was bipartisan)they would and could. Anything else is unadulterated bullshit.

...imply our actions in Libya are "aggressive", whereas that is far from the truth. We (including NATO) are there for the people of Libya.
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2011, 07:08:24 pm »

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...imply our actions in Libya are "aggressive", whereas that is far from the truth. We (including NATO) are there for the people of Libya.

I'm sure many former military would agree. However I remember recent history when the US gave Quedaffi billions in aid during his reign and he gave up nuclear ambitions to appease the west but that still wasn't enough. NATO is not now nor ever has been my friend as they provide war as a product. Peace keeping is code for war without end.
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2011, 07:51:20 pm »

I'm sure many former military would agree.

I have never taken a "pro-war" stance because I'm former military. Far from it.

What I'm saying is that the Libyan people will be far better off because of the actions of our country in conjunction with NATO.

That's not war.

It's peace and democracy.
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2011, 08:14:29 pm »

I have never taken a "pro-war" stance because I'm former military. Far from it.

What I'm saying is that the Libyan people will be far better off because of the actions of our country in conjunction with NATO.

That's not war.

It's peace and democracy.

Like our perfect and transparent system in 2000 or '04 when there was fraud found in voting machines? Peace like the secret morgue in Joplin where CNN was told to not come back, property rights no longer having any meaning, states right eroding like a snake's skin, further expansion of powers to the FBI to enter or look at anything they deem possibly suspicious?
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2011, 08:29:42 pm »

Like our perfect and transparent system in 2000 or '04 when there was fraud found in voting machines? Peace like the secret morgue in Joplin where CNN was told to not come back, property rights no longer having any meaning, states right eroding like a snake's skin, further expansion of powers to the FBI to enter or look at anything they deem possibly suspicious?

None of those are related to my statement, nor are they correlated by credible sources (although they may be).


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