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Quote from: ekg on November 23, 2011, 09:19:12 pm
well they did 'mic check' Obama, but their goal isn't in get rid of leaders and install crazy fanatics like Joe Walsh.. it's to let those who are already elected know the whole world is watching..
Here's the video...Obama handled that so well! If it had been Boehner, McConnell, anyone of the presidential candidates...hell, any Republican, they would have been shackled and led out of the room and taken to the gulag!
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Quote from: lil mike on November 24, 2011, 10:00:11 am
What is this "Arab Spring" comparison? I really don't get that. Is Obama = Mubarak?
I know you don't.. but if I wasn't sure that you didn't, wouldn't, and couldn't get it, even after having it explained.. all I had to do was read your 'good breakdown' of OWS in that slam-piece.. er, I mean, un-biased informative report..
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here's a 'real' good read on OWS..
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I was at an event on the Upper East Side last Friday night when I got to talking with a salesman in the media business. The subject turned to Zuccotti Park and Occupy Wall Street, and he was chuckling about something he'd heard on the news.
"I hear [Occupy Wall Street] has a CFO," he said. "I think that's funny."
"Okay, I'll bite," I said. "Why is that funny?"
"Well, I heard they're trying to decide what bank to put their money in," he said, munching on hors d'oeuvres. "It's just kind of ironic."
Oh, Christ, I thought. He’s saying the protesters are hypocrites because they’re using banks. I sighed.
"Listen," I said, "where else are you going to put three hundred thousand dollars? A shopping bag?"
"Well," he said, "it's just, their protests are all about... You know..."
"Dude," I said. "These people aren't protesting money. They're not protesting banking. They're protesting corruption on Wall Street."
"Whatever," he said, shrugging.
These nutty criticisms of the protests are spreading like cancer. Earlier that same day,I'd taped a TV segment on CNN with Will Cain from the National Review, and we got into an argument on the air. Cain and I agreed about a lot of the problems on Wall Street, but when it came to the protesters, we disagreed on one big thing.
Cain said he believed that the protesters are driven by envy of the rich.
"I find the one thing [the protesters] have in common revolves around the human emotions of envy and entitlement," he said. "What you have is more than what I have, and I'm not happy with my situation."
Cain seems like a nice enough guy, but I nearly blew my stack when I heard this. When you take into consideration all the theft and fraud and market manipulation and other evil shit Wall Street bankers have been guilty of in the last ten-fifteen years, you have to have balls like church bells to trot out a propaganda line that says the protesters are just jealous of their hard-earned money.
Read more:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/owss-beef-wall-street-isnt-winning-its-cheating-20111025#ixzz1egFm1sh3
seems like the NRO has a history of getting OWS wrong.. go figure.
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Quote from: Howey on November 24, 2011, 11:43:24 am
The OWS movement is not about Obama. As much as you guys wish it was. I would suggest a look in the mirror to see who OWS is protesting against.
Funny shit! The exact same thing can be said about the Tea Party. Except the OWS movement is growing in leaps and bounds and the Tea Party is withering at the vine.
Wow...this Charles C. W. Cooke is quite the writer! Look at all those big words that say absolutely nothing!
Who is this guy? Seems like he showed up out of the blue (or should it be red?) sometime in June writing for the NRO (btw - if you ever communicate with Jonah Goldberg tell him I say Hi!) and after learning how to write he went immediately after the OWS crowd, echoing all the invalid talking points you're mimicking.
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well I know that like Mitt Romney, he doesn't like to tell the whole story, he just clips what he likes and writes that..
Then — less innocuously — the homeless, the mentally ill, and the downright criminal joined the unholy partnership
Uh yeah, because NYPD dropped off and directed them to the park.. they told them there was free food there. Nice people the NYPD, but it worked out nicely since Cooke got to write a 'good breakdown on OWS'
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Quote from: Howey on November 24, 2011, 11:47:35 am
Here's the video...Obama handled that so well! If it had been Boehner, McConnell, anyone of the presidential candidates...hell, any Republican, they would have been shackled and led out of the room and taken to the gulag!
heh, Bachman just walked out on her 'mic-check'..
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Quote from: Howey on November 24, 2011, 11:43:24 am
The OWS movement is not about Obama. As much as you guys wish it was. I would suggest a look in the mirror to see who OWS is protesting against.
Funny shit! The exact same thing can be said about the Tea Party. Except the OWS movement is growing in leaps and bounds and the Tea Party is withering at the vine.
Wow...this Charles C. W. Cooke is quite the writer! Look at all those big words that say absolutely nothing!
Who is this guy? Seems like he showed up out of the blue (or should it be red?) sometime in June writing for the NRO (btw - if you ever communicate with Jonah Goldberg tell him I say Hi!) and after learning how to write he went immediately after the OWS crowd, echoing all the invalid talking points you're mimicking.
So...do you know who he
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Do you actually know Jonah Goldberg or have you just stalked him?
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Quote from: lil mike on November 24, 2011, 11:15:18 pm
Do you actually know Jonah Goldberg or have you just stalked him?
If people with Twitter accounts are stalkers, than yeah...Unfortunately, he read my tweet which took him here wherein he read my post and had a conniption fit.
http://popculturedoneright.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,916.0.html
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Gee...the previously honored cop who took so much delight in spraying the UC Davis students with
pepper spray
food product has quite the history of hate!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63bia-XrioU&feature=player_embedded
How can this dude get awards even after this?
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Quote from: Howey on November 25, 2011, 12:24:21 pm
If people with Twitter accounts are stalkers, than yeah...Unfortunately, he read my tweet which took him here wherein he read my post and had a conniption fit.
http://popculturedoneright.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,916.0.html
Wow, although I'm surprised that I got a mention even though I'd been gone for months at the time you posted that, I'm really surprised you mentioned Sam, since he's been off the radar quite a bit longer. You really don't let go do you? I'm pretty sure you are thinking of him a lot more than he's thinking of you.
Anyway, is this the conniption?
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NROJonah Goldberg
@howey_d hate to tell you, I don't know anyone on right who's afraid of Elizabeth Warren.
Sorry, I don't see that. He doesn't seem to sound very afraid unless there is some other tweet you're holding out on.
Anyway, although as a writer I've known who Jonah Goldberg is for many years, I don't recall using ever using him as source or quoting him on the muche, much less on a daily basis. I've probably quoted Whoopi Goldberg more than Jonah!
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Quote from: ekg on November 24, 2011, 01:54:43 pm
I know you don't.. but if I wasn't sure that you didn't, wouldn't, and couldn't get it, even after having it explained.. all I had to do was read your 'good breakdown' of OWS in that slam-piece.. er, I mean, un-biased informative report..
You're right, I don't get it, that's why I asked.
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Quote from: lil mike on November 25, 2011, 11:46:57 pm
You're right, I don't get it, that's why I asked.
I don't know why you're feigning such ignorance, such as when ekg and I referred to OWC as America's "Arab Spring". You've always been intelligent enough to reason with a measured response, when it suits your needs of course.
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Quote from: lil mike on November 25, 2011, 11:44:31 pm
Wow, although I'm surprised that I got a mention even though I'd been gone for months at the time you posted that, I'm really surprised you mentioned Sam, since he's been off the radar quite a bit longer. You really don't let go do you? I'm pretty sure you are thinking of him a lot more than he's thinking of you.
You, and Sam, have been mentioned over the months as a sort of "shout out". We know he's been lurking and I suspect you were too. Glad you're back. It would be nice if he joined in the conversation too. I love proving him wrong time and time again!
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Quote from: lil mike on November 25, 2011, 11:44:31 pm
Anyway, is this the conniption?
Sorry, I don't see that. He doesn't seem to sound very afraid unless there is some other tweet you're holding out on.
Holding out on? Nah...You can only go back so far to find old tweets. So I went with what I had.
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The simplified version, at least to me, is that OWS is a coming together of individuals who want change...serious change.
By in large, they're labeled as "envious" at their core, which is what supposedly makes them different than the TP movement...who also want change, but are hard work'in 'Mericans and don't want no handouts...accept for Medicare/Medicaid, blah, blah, blah.
"Envious" is incorrect. As Matt Tabbi has said, if this was class warfare, why now? There have been rich people and poor people in this country since forever. Why not during the Great Depression? Why not in the 80's when Reagan made it fashionable to dump on the poor? Why not during the many recessions in our history when 9 to 5 families were stretched thin as paper?
Simply...no one hates the rich. They do however have a strong, almost visceral dislike of cheaters. Becoming rich is one of the American Dreams. Here, anyone (seemingly) has a chance...because the playing field is SUPPOSE to be set up in such a way that it's level for all. Any pretext of this stopped in the 80's and it's tilting has finally been noticed by the masses who simply can't ignore the reality anymore.
Wall Street, Big Bankers and a lot of Corps., through years and years of lobbying, have shit on the level playing field and unbalanced the greatness of the American Dream specifically in their favor and are now forcing the average American to choose items to loose because of that unbalancing. Programs, one by one, are on the chopping block to be sacrificed...that had this massive unbalancing not taken place...would otherwise be "problems" that were manageable...but now are seemingly paramount.
Average Americans are being asked to live with less, work twice and three times as hard (for less)...for the basics...THE BASICS...ALL BECAUSE...the cheaters, the unlevelers, want to keep that fat cash rolling in...but to do so...something has to give somewhere else...and that somewhere is the level playing field. Yin and Yang is destroyed in the process and our conversation is polluted by rhetoric pointing everywhere else...except the actual problem. Fucking cheaters, who want it all, threw our economy...the stability of the average citizen away...for some sweet fuckin greenbacks. They infected our political process, they infected the dynamic of the economy, they even infected and changed the conversation to make people believe this bullshit is because the atypical American is SUCH a greedy fucker...that "we" brought on our own economic demise. It's god damn BEAUTIFUL! It's a work of dark fucking art! I haven't seen this much manipulation since I first discovered whack'in off!
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Quote from: uselesslegs on November 26, 2011, 01:44:31 pm
The simplified version, at least to me, is that OWS is a coming together of individuals who want change...serious change.
By in large, they're labeled as "envious" at their core, which is what supposedly makes them different than the TP movement...who also want change, but are hard work'in 'Mericans and don't want no handouts...accept for Medicare/Medicaid, blah, blah, blah.
"Envious" is incorrect. As Matt Tabbi has said, if this was class warfare, why now? There have been rich people and poor people in this country since forever. Why not during the Great Depression? Why not in the 80's when Reagan made it fashionable to dump on the poor? Why not during the many recessions in our history when 9 to 5 families were stretched thin as paper?
Simply...no one hates the rich. They do however have a strong, almost visceral dislike of cheaters. Becoming rich is one of the American Dreams.
Here, anyone (seemingly) has a chance...because the playing field is SUPPOSE to be set up in such a way that it's level for all. Any pretext of this stopped in the 80's and it's tilting has finally been noticed by the masses who simply can't ignore the reality anymore.
Wall Street, Big Bankers and a lot of Corps., through years and years of lobbying, have shit on the level playing field and unbalanced the greatness of the American Dream specifically in their favor and are now forcing the average American to choose items to loose because of that unbalancing. Programs, one by one, are on the chopping block to be sacrificed...that had this massive unbalancing not taken place...would otherwise be "problems" that were manageable...but now are seemingly paramount.
Average Americans are being asked to live with less, work twice and three times as hard (for less)...for the basics...THE BASICS...ALL BECAUSE...the cheaters, the unlevelers, want to keep that fat cash rolling in.
..but to do so...something has to give somewhere else...and that somewhere is the level playing field. Yin and Yang is destroyed in the process and our conversation is polluted by rhetoric pointing everywhere else...except the actual problem. Fucking cheaters, who want it all, threw our economy...the stability of the average citizen away...for some sweet fuckin greenbacks. They infected our political process, they infected the dynamic of the economy, they even infected and changed the conversation to make people believe this bullshit is because the atypical American is SUCH a greedy fucker...that "we" brought on our own economic demise. It's god damn BEAUTIFUL! It's a work of dark fucking art! I haven't seen this much manipulation since I first discovered whack'in off!
can I get a HELL YEAH!
but he will still feign ignorance...
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