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« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2011, 06:35:57 pm »

no, I don't believe you would love it, in fact I don't know that you can. You had the perfect opp to do so and chose to level invalid charges at me for my valid bitch with the tea-party, even after I listed my complaints and even said I was in the habit of doing exactly what you were doing but was trying to get out of it and offered you my hand so we could both get up out of the shit... and then, I don't watch the Ed Show so I don't know your reference but knowing where you're at right now, you throw what I know was not a compliment.. so No, I don't think you would love to talk about any issue unless it's been buried under 3ft of shit and distorted beyond any recognition..

but maybe you'll learn to love it again..

so, I'll put the hand out there again and go 1st.. what's your real beef with the protestors.. not the pot-heads out having fun that Foxnews searched for to get their Beavis and Butthead sound-byte.. but the real protestors who are out there for real reasons..How do they not want what you, a libertarian.. uh, a capitalist, would also want?

I didn't think you would ever get there, but you finally did, so congrats to that.

Although there is a lot of could say about the theater of OWS, such as the deaths, the sexual assaults, the anti-semitism, the violence, and the feces... so much feces..   But I don't come here to hippy punch, but to actually talk about the issues, for as  long as you can manage to do that (and history makes me think you will veer off of that soon enough).

I think that there are similar roots to both the tea party and OWS: they feel marginalized, don't think they have a seat at the table, disgusted at bail outs, and how the system seems to be gamed by those already in power.  When OWS first started, I mean that very first week, it seemed like their issues were crippling student loans and the unemployment that went with it.



I could understand that frustration.  You spent a lot of borrowed money for a degree, and then you graduate into the worse recession in decades.  However there really wasn't a policy solution to that. Some guy put on the OWS  website that they wanted all debts, including all student loan debts, erased, but I don't think the movement has coalesced around that idea, and it's totally impossible anyway.

Of course they got their name from the disgust at Wall Street.  They got bailed out, got their bonuses and those guys are doing great.  It's the whole rest of the economy that's in the shitter.

Then every old hippie and leftist started showing up to these things and you wouldn't get the same answer twice as to what OWS was all about.  Eventually that morphed into income inequality, which the policy solution for that is super high taxes on the wealthy.  But again, that doesn't seem to do much for the recently graduated, unemployed young person.  They are still out of work.  Thats a policy of strictly class envy, it doesn't actually help anything.

So maybe you know better than I, but what does OWS want now in terms of policy?  With the tea party, they had about half a dozen bullet points that they stuck with, but I don't have the same  list of OWS.  
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