holy crap you're hell bent on splicing whatever you can together to make an erroneous point aren't you?
the veto threat is not Obama saying he will veto any attempt congress makes, it's any attempt congress makes in trying to get around the sequester without a true deficit-reduction plan. That sequester is painful for a reason, to force them to act.. you should be ashamed that you are OK with them squirming out of their own self-imposed 'sword of Damocles'.. but instead, you're pulling a Romney again and stopping Obama's sentence where you think it will do the most damage.. The sentence is not "Obama said he would veto any attempt by Congress to fix those cuts" It's "Obama said he would veto any attempt by Congress to get around the sequester if lawmakers fail to cut a debt-reduction deal"
superfail indeed..
This brief tit for tat reminds me why debating you became so joyless after a awhile. Like Shutter island, your posts were crazy the whole time.
Let's back up a bit. Here is what I said:
In many previous comments, the defense budget was the first place you've mentioned that you wanted to cut. Including in the Obama era. So if you are now saying, no, you don't want cuts that big in the defense budget, are you upset that Obama said he would veto any attempt by Congress to fix those cuts?
Your reply, was first to say I was lying...
uh yeah, is it that you don't want to tell the truth or are incapable of it? Obama didn't say he would veto any attempt by congress to fix the cuts.. Jesus, really? The veto threat was to Congress for trying to get around the sequester they imposes upon themselves..
wtf Mike? do you even vet your news slants anymore or just go with what Hannity and Rush tell you like it's gospel..
And at the same time that you were calling me a liar, you totally sliced and diced a difference that wasn't there.
Again, I said
...are you upset that Obama said he would veto any attempt by Congress to fix those cuts?
Now, what cuts did you think I was talking about? The only actual cuts there were, the sequestration cuts, that cut 600 billion in defense and 600 billion in medicare. There were no other cuts on the table. The supercommittee failed remember?
You seemed to acknowledge at least that the sequestration was actually automatic budget cuts...
...The veto threat was to Congress for trying to get around the sequester they imposes upon themselves..
So from this you could draw the conclusion that we either are in agreement.
But no...
where in the hell do you get "Obama said he would veto any attempt by Congress to fix those cuts?"
And then of course more gibber gaber...
For once, you should be on-board with this president since you're all about debt-reduction and all.. but the fact that you're making this stuff like this, kinda proves that no, you're not hell-bent on debt-reduction, you're just hell bent on saying "No" to anything Obama does, even when it's your own philosophy..
See? Crazy the whole time.
What the hell happened to you? You're incapable of holding a reasoned discussion since it seems that your primary purpose is to try to take anything I say totally out of context and give my words totally new meanings, no matter how much you have to be deceitful to do it. I've said it before, but you changed after the election, and counter intuitively, in a very bad way. You're not capable of really discussing issue with me since, even when we seemed to agree on the facts, you just can't accept it and start slinging shit and making stuff up. Why? Obviously I don't really give a shit now, but you've proven your still nuts and are incapable of reasonable discourse.
I had forgotten how much I missed that. On the other board I'm on, I'm actually having reasonable arguments with liberals and leftists just like we use to before you went crazy. That board reminded me how much I missed it, but right now that's the only place I can get it.
