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« on: October 05, 2012, 10:59:52 am »

I felt creative today.  Feel free to share.
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2012, 11:51:38 am »

Nice creative....and I'll saaaaaaaaay....The Polls.

17 days? Yea, not buy'in it.  He stood by what he said as "not elegantly stated", even argued he could have said what he said better, but that the core theme wasn't really in error. Which was, 47 percent of people WON'T take responsibility for their lives.  He fucked up, big time.  Kept playing to his fringe and the uber rich who asked him those questions to begin with, because THAT'S how they think...and after he see's his debate bump didn't score him more than a point or two and 17 days later...NOW he's sorry? Fuck that...and fuck him.
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2012, 01:37:27 pm »

He's every bit slimy as Hannity and Limbaugh who will say anything even when they absolutely positively know it's not the truth.  Fucker makes my skin crawl.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2012, 03:55:09 pm »

It's not 17 days. It's almos 150 days since the schmuck opened his mouth.
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2012, 05:27:32 pm »

It's not 17 days. It's almos 150 days since the schmuck opened his mouth.

Abomination moron can you not fuckin read?  l e t  m e  s p l a i n e  i t  y o u.  I t ' s  t h e  t i m e  s i n c e  t h e  t a p e  w a s  m a d e  p u b l i c.   The only thing that I will enjoy if Romney wins is when they take away any pro-faggot laws so your cunt head can explode.  THAT will be fun to watch.
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2012, 10:03:59 pm »

I felt creative today.  Feel free to share.


damn..

you made a 'photoshop' AND loaded it properly on the board?

who are you? and what have you done with our computer-illiterate Darth?

I remember the days when I had to make your sigs.. then feed you  the code with (*) in it for you to remove and then post the whole thing in your profile..

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh we really are making progress aren't we.. Grin

Good job too..!

Last night Aaron sat down to watch a few minutes of TV with me and something popped up about Ryan's '30%' comment and he asked what it was.. I told him  and he said "well, that's not true but Romney's 47% was"...

you know the sound of a needle being dragged across a record?  Yeah, that's what I heard in my head..

I looked at him and say "He is? Really? I'm surprised you would think of yourself as a victim sucking off the gov't tit"..

and he got pretty pissed and said "Bullshit!.. I work my ass off.. wtf are you talking about"..

I said "Did you get a tax return this year?... wait, I know you did because I filed it.. Darlin' you and I are one of the 47%"...."You were on UI the start of last year, you took an EIC tax credit, you took a credit for having a child under 16.. yep, you're a victim that feels entitled to food and healthcare.. and MItt doesn't care about you"..

needless to say he was stunned stupid...  and I continued..

"papa(my grandfather) is also one of those loser-victims.. The man who fought on at Midway, on Iwo Jima, who was shot when he boat sank at the Salvo Island battle.. who was a marine for 25 years, retired and the decided to go to work for the post office because he didn't want to retire that young even though he could have.. then spent another 25 years as mail-carrier... he's on tri-care and medicare.. and doesn't pay a penny in taxes... If only Mitt could teach him to take responsibility for himself..

and then you have Chuck.. he can't lift his arms 6 inches off his wheelchair, he can't walk a step..and is in a wheelchair all day that he has to treat like it's gold since medicaid won't replace it for another 3-4 years.. wow, he should really take care and responsibility for his life and quit sucking off Trump huh?"


and he realized he was duped into believing the 47% were 'welfare queens'... and now he's pissed he was made to believe that..

hopefully when he goes hunting tomorrow, he'll break the news to all the other 47% parasites out there that Mitt wasn't talking about welfare queens, he was talking about them..




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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2012, 10:58:27 pm »

Good job, ekg!
I wish we could make people who go into Wal-Mart stop before entry to hear that explanation. Seriously - no-one is explaining it that clearly to the average voter.
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and then you have Chuck.. he can't lift his arms 6 inches off his wheelchair, he can't walk a step..and is in a wheelchair all day that he has to treat like it's gold since medicaid won't replace it for another 3-4 years.. wow, he should really take care and responsibility for his life and quit sucking off Trump huh?"

Yes he should.  Here let me really piss you and every one else off!  Chuck's a very intelligent guy who got the major ass fuck in life.  Granted.  But he can be on the computer and post here and there all day.  Sorry but why can't he be on the computer or phone a couple hours a day and work?  Helping people, perhaps like himself, deal with govt. red tape or whatever?  Or why can't he mentor or tutor kids in school via the net or phone?  Unless you're in a coma, you should have to do something to earn that check based on your ability.  Now you can spit.
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2012, 03:26:11 am »

Yes he should.  Here let me really piss you and every one else off!  Chuck's a very intelligent guy who got the major ass fuck in life.  Granted.  But he can be on the computer and post here and there all day.  Sorry but why can't he be on the computer or phone a couple hours a day and work?  Helping people, perhaps like himself, deal with govt. red tape or whatever?  Or why can't he mentor or tutor kids in school via the net or phone?  Unless you're in a coma, you should have to do something to earn that check based on your ability.  Now you can spit.

I'll explain it.  If I make so much as 50+ dollars a week...they bend me over and reduce my medicare/medicaid significantly. If I make 75+ bucks a week, that starts working itself backwards out of my disability check. For any 1 step forward, I take 3 steps back and away from what few assurances I have. I've checked around, no insurance company will touch me with even a quarter of the coverage I have now, for less than 500-600 a month.  It is economically impossible for me to move away from the Damocles of entitlement I receive without putting myself in literal financial/medical peril.  

The "tools" provided for me to move away from tit sucking are rigid in design and work basically as a one size fits all approach to the myriad of realities that face a kaleidoscope of people with needs.  No one will hire me to take breaks every 10 to 15 minutes to rest my fingers. If I were fortunate enough to find an employer with Dragon Speak, any charm or charisma I might have initially wooed them with, will wear thin quickly as I leave for the 3rd, 4th or 5th time in a week because I shit myself and need to go home to clean up...and when I get home there's no guarantee someone will be there to help me.  I did volunteer work until this past year, but I kept getting sick all of the time...and either through lack of mental perseverance on my part or my body just refusing to cooperate or both...I stopped pushing myself...because quite frankly when I get sick I play mumbly pegs with death...and call me a pussy...but the game was/is getting scary...so I put the brakes on some of the major players.

My independence exist in a very tenuous state that has almost zero room for flux.  Actually, as long as I'm being honest, using the word independence in conjunction within the reality I dwell, bares little resemblance to it's definition.  It's more like someone with Downs Syndrome living with mommy or daddy or an "independent" living center, who allow them to pretend they're independent...or tell them they are...as long as they're constantly surrounded my caretakers or someone who checks up on them frequently...who have every wonderful intention in the world...but without whom you ultimately couldn't function.  Not because of spoiled dependence, but because of the absolute necessity of such. There's not a day that goes by I don't praise their efforts and curse my pretend time.  

My last taste of independence was 1996.  When I was renting my own apartment in Melbourne.  It was the last time I could physically take care of all my needs AND work 60+ hours a week...tired beyond words, but able to recover.  I loved working with my hands. I always gravitated towards employment (except for my stent in real estate) that required meticulous eye hand coordination.  Like mill spec assembly work for Government computer contracts.  I made good money.  I was fast, exceedingly accurate, and sent sigma numbers through the roof for quality and quantity...good times.  I wasn't smart enough to foresee a future that would require more grey matter and less nimbley time. Quite frankly, I thought I was a dead man rolling...and I spent what time I thought was running out of doing what gave me the most joy and sense of pride.  So flash forward to 46...and I'm the most miscalculating fuckwad...ever.

I'm writing a book now (3 actually) while my fingers and voice box still work and maybe I'll hit paydirt....but that's not my primary motivation.  I want to write something good. Something that makes people go, "God damn"...but writings infinitely more difficult than I imaged and it's a painfully slow process.  Hell all of this took me more than an hour to vomit out, with said gimpy breaks in tow.

Do I want to be a leech? No.  I've darkly entertained a few morbid alternatives (spare the tax payers and all), because being alive doesn't come without routine acknowledgement of my many failings, incredibly bad planning, and my most frequent tormentor...an entitlement receiving bag of shit, but I can never bring myself to carry them out.  Bonafide pussy to the end I guess.

If one of my books should get published (in alternative fantasy land) and a heavenly amount of scratch lands in my bank account as a result...I'm taking you and the cunt on a drunken theme park week with me...and you get to wipe the turkey leg shit outta my ass.
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2012, 09:52:28 am »

Yes he should.  Here let me really piss you and every one else off!  Chuck's a very intelligent guy who got the major ass fuck in life.  Granted.  But he can be on the computer and post here and there all day.  Sorry but why can't he be on the computer or phone a couple hours a day and work?  Helping people, perhaps like himself, deal with govt. red tape or whatever?  Or why can't he mentor or tutor kids in school via the net or phone?  Unless you're in a coma, you should have to do something to earn that check based on your ability.  Now you can spit.

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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2012, 12:54:10 pm »

Yes he should.  Here let me really piss you and every one else off!  Chuck's a very intelligent guy who got the major ass fuck in life.  Granted.  But he can be on the computer and post here and there all day.  Sorry but why can't he be on the computer or phone a couple hours a day and work?  Helping people, perhaps like himself, deal with govt. red tape or whatever?  Or why can't he mentor or tutor kids in school via the net or phone?  Unless you're in a coma, you should have to do something to earn that check based on your ability.  Now you can spit.

I'm not going to spit because I don't think you understand Chuck's situation.. I think you're seeing 'Chuck-99' in your head and you don't realize that guy is not around anymore.

Besides the part he explained where if he makes X-amt of money he'll lose the benefits that  literally, no bullshit, no hyperbole,sustain his life.. I'm going to focus on the 'working' part.  Yes, he's got a brain that's limitless in it's intelligence and ability to use that intelligence to weave words into something extraordinary.. but what he doesn't have is muscle.  With any movement you make, it takes muscles.. and no matter how small that movement is, you do some damage to the muscle. 99% of us don't ever notice that damage.. maybe our wrist hurts from typing too much or our calves hurt from stretching too much to get the box on the top shelf in the  cabinet.. whatever it is, we all have something like that. The only reason my fingers aren't hurting right now after all this typing is because I've got big fucking mouth that likes to talk so they had to learn to toughen up..

but Chuck's muscles don't 'toughen up'.. they atrophy...they atrophy without use, they atrophy even more with use... when you or I wear a muscle it recovers and gets stronger.. when Chuck wears a muscle, it recovers less and less until finally it doesn't recover at all..

you or I have a range of motion and dexterity that allows up to comb our hair and maybe add a little hair spray to the top to get that cowlick to lay down.. Chuck couldn't raise his arms that high to comb his hair, neither does have the strength and dexterity hold a bottle and push the spray button at the same time.. When he eats, he brings his head/chin/mouth down towards the table because he can't bring his hand UP..

But you might say, look at Hawking, he's frozen in his body and he teaches, does tv, writes books... yes, but he's the outlier.. he's the exception.. he's not the rule. He was brilliant,famous in his circle, and yes, wealthy before he was frozen solid... not to mention he was raised in country with uni-healthcare that wasn't taken away from him if he did work 40hrs one week took a month off to recover and then worked 7hr for the next 18 weeks so he could recuperate from that one long week. He's an academic, Chuck could have been.. he's just as intelligent.. but where Hawking was an academic before he was frozen, Chuck didn't have the same opportunity.. nor did he or anyone in his family ever expect him to live this long anyway..He was told all his life he'd be dead before he was a teenager, then before he was 25, then before he was 35.. he was promised he wouldn't make it to 40... but look now, he's 46..

Now, at 46.. not only does he have to deal with what everyone who is 46 is starting to deal with when their body realizes it's not 17 anymore.. his MD compounds that exponentially.. Take respiratory infections.. those are bad for anyone, but for Chuck they're a death sentence.. He doesn't have the muscle capacity, the lung capacity, the 'regeneration' ability to recover.. so any little 'cough' send panic through his mind because of the danger it presents to him..

I know what you're saying.. I really do. In this day in age, with his intelligence and mental abilities.. why can't get find work somewhere..

Marc, 20 year old college grads who are experts in their fields can't find work.. able body people who don't need guaranteed breaks every 15 mins, who can work with any stress or deadlines,who have a place of employment that understands that just exerting an hour too much today means the next 2 days need to be taken off so they can lay in  bed recovery what little mobility is left.. can't find work.

He's going to kill me for saying this, but I want you to finally understand.. because I know this has been a 'thing' for you for awhile now and I think it's come between you two in some way and I really wish it wouldn't..  He limits what he eat in quantity and variety so he doesn't shit.. not so he doesn't shit in his pants, that's a factor too, but so he doesn't shit period. he can't just get up and go to the toilet, he can't just pop on a diaper and pop it off when it's dirty.. So he just decided he'd change his diet to limit his bowels.. Once, 4-5 years ago when his mom could actually go away for the weekend and leave him alone.. which btw, he still couldn't get into his bed so his plans were to just roll up to a table and crash his head on it like he was in 7th science class...he'd just stop eating altogether for the 2 days or so before she left so he wouldn't have to find a way to the bathroom at all..he didn't want her to feel like she was trapped inside the house, he wanted her to have her freedom because he knew the day was coming where she wouldn't be able to leave him for more than an hour here and there..

the 'spiral piss of death'.. that wasn't a joke.. it was real... he'd roll up to the toilet when no one could help, pull out his junk and 'aim' a his piss towards the toilet.. when you saw him he had Jimmy with him as convenience.. now, he has someone with him as life-sustaining necessity..

Physical or Occupational therapy doesn't work for Chuck since he can't replace the muscle that's damaged from therapy does.. He has learned to either do without or do things in way we'd never think of.. The last time I was there he had to keep the cat out of his room at night because if the cat decided to lay on his chest, he can't move her off and will suffocate from her weight on him... true, she's a fat ass cat.. LOL.. but not fat enough to where a 3 year old couldn't move her.. But Chuck can't. he can't push himself up in bed if he 'schooches' down.. he can't turn over, he can't bend down and scratch his ankle.. yes, his mind is there and it's rocking.. but his body isn't and he's not wealthy enough or academically established enough to 'succeed' in the extremely unique way it would take him too succeed..That's what  you're missing in your theory, the extremely unique, unto him, conditions he would need to find work and be successful enough to 'pull himself up'... and our society doesn't help  the people like him.. it punishes them by taking away their healthcare if they work, by taking away their $200 a month in food stamps if he makes $175 a week..he literally cannot own a newer car, nor a bank account or he will lose all his benefits.. and when he loses the job that gave him that freedom from Trump's tit, our system makes it impossible to just start back on it.. and he can't afford, living-wise, to wait out the lag time.

I just don't think you understand what his situation is today... and what it will be tomorrow. I'm not around him as much as I want to be.. but I've seen the decline in his physical ability over the years.. I've seen him go from being able to use his feet to shcooch his chair here and there to seeing him unable to get anything off even the middle shelf of his >standard size fridge-much less open the fridge door without having to use the power of wheelchair to pull it open instead of just using his arm-strength ..

Yes, somewhere out there there is job he can do today.. but tomorrow he won't even be able to do that and will have to find another needle in a very large haystack.... and unfortunately he can't risk the loss of the measly benefits he does have today while he's searching for that very very tiny needle..

and just one more thing that might surprise you because you didn't realize when you said it..

you say "Instead of posting here all day".. look at the numbers.. I don't think you'd profess to be a major poster here who devotes all his time instead of working at the office he owns.. but compared to Chuck, that's exactly who you are.. You've been here since august 6.. 3 months.. and you average 2 posts a day.. chuck has been here 17 months and only averages 1 post a day.. he's been here 5 times longer than you and you still post double what he does.. and you're  not by any means, here posting all day..  well, neither is he..

I'm just saying.. you need to reassess your opinion because it's not based on current information or the realities he faces..

 
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2012, 03:38:20 pm »

God damned it, Spinner used my log in again.  HA!  You are correct, I haven't seen that little Niggrah in the better part of a decade.
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2012, 04:10:03 pm »

God damned it, Spinner used my log in again.  HA!  You are correct, I haven't seen that little Niggrah in the better part of a decade.


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