BM IS A LYING TROLL!

[Howey]

When he spews shit like this how can anyone believe anything Big Damo

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4164898/


So not only is Heinz not owned by Kerry, never was actually, it was his wife's family who owned it before, but Heinz ketchup was only used in some stores in PA stateside. And the reason is because the new CEO of Heinz once ran Burger King.

[paddymcdougall]

If he's typing he's lying...

[Howey]

The lies continue!

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?57186-Witness-comes-forward-with-new-Benghazi-details


Debunked here:

From: Cross, Alex Maj OLA, LA-41B
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:55 PM
To: Cross, Alex Maj OLA, LA-41B
Subject: Marines in Libya and Egypt
 

Ladies and Gentlemen-

The following information is provided regarding Marine involvement in the recent actions in Egypt and Libya:

Egypt:
-The Ambassador did not impose restrictions on weapons or weapons status on the Marine Corps Embassy Security Group (MCESG) detachment.  The MCESG Marines in Cairo were allowed to have live ammunition in their weapons.  The Ambassador and Regional Security Officer have been completely and appropriately engaged with the security situation. Reports of Marines not being able to have their weapons loaded per direction from the Ambassador are not accurate.
- The Marine Corps does not establish Rules of Engagement (ROE). Nonetheless, ROE is classified and release of that information would jeopardize the Marines and U.S. interests.  Any further inquiry should be directed to the State Department, since Marine security guards report to the ambassador not to a military commander.
-As reported in open sources, approximately 2000 personnel were protesting outside the U.S. Embassy and six individuals entered Embassy grounds.  The Marines quickly took control of these six individuals and subsequently turned them over to local security officials.
-There were no Marines injured in this, or other actions in Cairo.
-There are no Marine dependents in Cairo.

Libya:
-Contrary to open source reporting, there are no Marines currently stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli, or the Consulate in Benghazi.
-There were no Marines killed in the attack on the Consulate in Benghazi.

Yemen:
-The American Embassy in Sana'a, Yemen has a MCESG reinforced with a Marine security force.  Due to operational security, we are not at liberty to provide additional details at this time.

Marine Corps Embassy Security Guards (MCESG):
Embassy security in Tripoli and the consulate in Benghazi fall under the Regional Security Officer with the State Department.  The U.S. maintains over 285 diplomatic facilities worldwide.  MCESG provides 152 security detachments provide internal security at designated U.S. diplomatic and consular facilities in order to prevent the compromise of classified material vital to the national security of the United States.  Perimeter security is the responsibility of the host nation police/security forces.  AMEMB Tripoli does not have a MCESG detachment.  Typically, when a new embassy is established, it takes time to grow a new MCESG detachment.  In coordination with the State Department, there was discussion about establishing a detachment in Tripoli sometime in the next five years.  Overall, the plan is to grow the number of MCESG detachments worldwide to 173. The size of a MCESG detachment depends on the size of the Embassy and the security situation on the ground.  They normally range anywhere from 5-20+ Marines in size.  MCESG can, and have, provided security at Consulates as well as Embassies.  For example, Marines guard the US Consulate in Hong Kong and, in the past, have guarded the US Consulate in addition to the Embassy in Haiti.  The decision as to which consulates receive this augmented security lies with the State Department.  State identifies its requirements and DOD/Marines work to provide it.  A U.S. Ambassador serving in an unstable region can/will normally have a security detail provided by the State Departments Diplomatic Security Corps.  State has agents specially trained to provide personal security details (similar to the Secret Service). Stephanie Hoostal at the State Liaison Office (B-330) can be reached at 6-4542 if you have questions specific to the State Dept.

Fleet Anti-Terrorism Support Team (FAST):
A FAST platoon deployed to Libya yesterday (12 Sep 12) to provide security for the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli.  Established in 1987, FAST platoons provide a limited-duration, expeditionary security force to protect vital naval and national assets.  FAST companies maintain forward-deployed platoons at various naval commands around the globe and possess U.S.-based alert forces capable of rapidly responding to unforeseen contingencies worldwide.  FAST is not designed to provide a permanent security force for installations.  FAST platoons are primarily designed to conduct defensive combat operations, military security operations, and rear area security operations in response to approved requests in support of geographic combatant and fleet commanders.  When deployed to reinforce embassies with existing MCESG detachments, FAST platoons will customarily provide an outer cordon of security inside the embassy compound, while MCESG Marines maintain security of the chancery proper, and host nation police/security forces provide an outer cordon of security beyond embassy grounds.

NOTE:  Although a Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) has traditionally been forward deployed to the Mediterranean (2.5 MEU forward deployment-1 x east coast MEU to the Med, 1 x west coast MEU to the Pacific, and the 31st MEU forward based out of Okinawa, Japan), there is currently no MEU presence in the Mediterranean.  The Marine Corps currently maintains a 1.5 MEU presence forward deployed.  We currently have the 24th MEU from the east coast deployed to the Persian Gulf, a west coast MEU is conducting work-ups for deployment, and the 31st MEU is operating from Okinawa.

Please see the attachments for more information on FAST or MCESG.  If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact your Marine Corps Liaison Office in RHOB-B324.

Respectfully,
Alex Cross, Maj USMC
Deputy Director, Marine Liaison Office
U.S. House of Representatives
B-324 Rayburn


Oh lookie!

A source with a real name!

Link:

 http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/egypt-embassy-marines-live-ammo#USMCmemo

[Howey]

Just so y'all know these will be posted if I return.

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?57219-Consumer-Reports-disses-Prius

So, dumbfuck was the Camry, Corolla, Audi A series and a host of other cars that got marginal crash test ratings.

And it's still not a big deal, Toyota got no government assistance to develop the Prius.

[Howey]

The lies continue!

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?57186-Witness-comes-forward-with-new-Benghazi-details


Debunked here:

From: Cross, Alex Maj OLA, LA-41B
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:55 PM
To: Cross, Alex Maj OLA, LA-41B
Subject: Marines in Libya and Egypt
 

Ladies and Gentlemen-

The following information is provided regarding Marine involvement in the recent actions in Egypt and Libya:

Egypt:
-The Ambassador did not impose restrictions on weapons or weapons status on the Marine Corps Embassy Security Group (MCESG) detachment.  The MCESG Marines in Cairo were allowed to have live ammunition in their weapons.  The Ambassador and Regional Security Officer have been completely and appropriately engaged with the security situation. Reports of Marines not being able to have their weapons loaded per direction from the Ambassador are not accurate.
- The Marine Corps does not establish Rules of Engagement (ROE). Nonetheless, ROE is classified and release of that information would jeopardize the Marines and U.S. interests.  Any further inquiry should be directed to the State Department, since Marine security guards report to the ambassador not to a military commander.
-As reported in open sources, approximately 2000 personnel were protesting outside the U.S. Embassy and six individuals entered Embassy grounds.  The Marines quickly took control of these six individuals and subsequently turned them over to local security officials.
-There were no Marines injured in this, or other actions in Cairo.
-There are no Marine dependents in Cairo.

Libya:
-Contrary to open source reporting, there are no Marines currently stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli, or the Consulate in Benghazi.
-There were no Marines killed in the attack on the Consulate in Benghazi.

Yemen:
-The American Embassy in Sana'a, Yemen has a MCESG reinforced with a Marine security force.  Due to operational security, we are not at liberty to provide additional details at this time.

Marine Corps Embassy Security Guards (MCESG):
Embassy security in Tripoli and the consulate in Benghazi fall under the Regional Security Officer with the State Department.  The U.S. maintains over 285 diplomatic facilities worldwide.  MCESG provides 152 security detachments provide internal security at designated U.S. diplomatic and consular facilities in order to prevent the compromise of classified material vital to the national security of the United States.  Perimeter security is the responsibility of the host nation police/security forces.  AMEMB Tripoli does not have a MCESG detachment.  Typically, when a new embassy is established, it takes time to grow a new MCESG detachment.  In coordination with the State Department, there was discussion about establishing a detachment in Tripoli sometime in the next five years.  Overall, the plan is to grow the number of MCESG detachments worldwide to 173. The size of a MCESG detachment depends on the size of the Embassy and the security situation on the ground.  They normally range anywhere from 5-20+ Marines in size.  MCESG can, and have, provided security at Consulates as well as Embassies.  For example, Marines guard the US Consulate in Hong Kong and, in the past, have guarded the US Consulate in addition to the Embassy in Haiti.  The decision as to which consulates receive this augmented security lies with the State Department.  State identifies its requirements and DOD/Marines work to provide it.  A U.S. Ambassador serving in an unstable region can/will normally have a security detail provided by the State Departments Diplomatic Security Corps.  State has agents specially trained to provide personal security details (similar to the Secret Service). Stephanie Hoostal at the State Liaison Office (B-330) can be reached at 6-4542 if you have questions specific to the State Dept.

Fleet Anti-Terrorism Support Team (FAST):
A FAST platoon deployed to Libya yesterday (12 Sep 12) to provide security for the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli.  Established in 1987, FAST platoons provide a limited-duration, expeditionary security force to protect vital naval and national assets.  FAST companies maintain forward-deployed platoons at various naval commands around the globe and possess U.S.-based alert forces capable of rapidly responding to unforeseen contingencies worldwide.  FAST is not designed to provide a permanent security force for installations.  FAST platoons are primarily designed to conduct defensive combat operations, military security operations, and rear area security operations in response to approved requests in support of geographic combatant and fleet commanders.  When deployed to reinforce embassies with existing MCESG detachments, FAST platoons will customarily provide an outer cordon of security inside the embassy compound, while MCESG Marines maintain security of the chancery proper, and host nation police/security forces provide an outer cordon of security beyond embassy grounds.

NOTE:  Although a Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) has traditionally been forward deployed to the Mediterranean (2.5 MEU forward deployment-1 x east coast MEU to the Med, 1 x west coast MEU to the Pacific, and the 31st MEU forward based out of Okinawa, Japan), there is currently no MEU presence in the Mediterranean.  The Marine Corps currently maintains a 1.5 MEU presence forward deployed.  We currently have the 24th MEU from the east coast deployed to the Persian Gulf, a west coast MEU is conducting work-ups for deployment, and the 31st MEU is operating from Okinawa.

Please see the attachments for more information on FAST or MCESG.  If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact your Marine Corps Liaison Office in RHOB-B324.

Respectfully,
Alex Cross, Maj USMC
Deputy Director, Marine Liaison Office
U.S. House of Representatives
B-324 Rayburn


Oh lookie!

A source with a real name!

Link:

 http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/egypt-embassy-marines-live-ammo#USMCmemo

More here:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10/28/the-latest-benghazi-hoax/196627

[paddymcdougall]

Just so y'all know these will be posted if I return.

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?57219-Consumer-Reports-disses-Prius

So, dumbfuck was the Camry, Corolla, Audi A series and a host of other cars that got marginal crash test ratings.

And it's still not a big deal, Toyota got no government assistance to develop the Prius.

but how can he bash liberals if he includes the facts???

[paddymcdougall]

Can't post on a board that allows crap posts like these in the name of free speech -

NOTE: link includes misogynistic nasty language; click at your own risk!!

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?56648-3-Days-of-ILA

[Howey]

How can there be free speech on a forum that has banned or run off it's liberal posters ?

[christiefan915]

Howey, if it's okay with you I'll post the Benghazi stuff tomorrow.  I'm done for tonight.

[paddymcdougall]

Thanks for the kind words re me on JPP, Christie! When PMP complained about me again!

[ekg]

Can't post on a board that allows crap posts like these in the name of free speech -

NOTE: link includes misogynistic nasty language; click at your own risk!!

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?56648-3-Days-of-ILA

AHAHAHAHAHA.............  Best 'mod' answer eveh..

(1)Considering I was going to research and find the posts that were offending and remove them, but now they are quoted here, I'm done. (2)Clearly they weren't offensive enough for you to not want to repeat them.

However this thread will close, as the user has been warned now about rule 12 violations,(3) so assume that "future" posts are something you don't want to quote. Thanks.

1-suuuuurrre he was .... about.... to... get to that search for offending posts.. and hup, darla beat him to it..damnitman! *coughbullshitcough*


2-I lovelovelove this kind of 'mod' response.. I've seen it on 'court' forums where the mods favor one side over the other so they just happen to always miss the 'rule violations' from 'their' pets but never ever miss them from the 'other' side.. it's the "how can you be hurt if you're still walking around" defense... "Oh he beat you? uh huh. So why are you standing here and not in unconscious?"... or "if you were raped, how are you able to sit in a room with two male detectives and talk to them so easily?"...HA I love it..."If it was so offensive, why did you copy it and show it to me?"... LO-fucking L..

 but my favorite is..

number 3

the... "If you repeat what was said, even if it's to tell me.. your the one who's going to get punished".. HAHA!




of course no where in his reply does he say anything about the person who posted all that... well other than "he was warned".. noooooo, instead, he's given that person more freedom to continue his behavior because what that person saw in that thread was the Mod standing up for him, not condemning what he did and said, but instead mocking and threatening the person who spoke up..

from my experience when this sort of thing happens.. and I don't care how old or new a forum is.. when this happens one of two things are the result.

A). the 'regular' posters just fade out because the bullies have just been given public permission to carry on. It wasn't them who was chided publicly for their behavior it was the one complaining.. the 'complainers' learn quickly that they're in the minority, the mods don't care and things are going to get worse..and eventually the forum turns into a shitpile of 'ILA'

B). the Mods get so sick of the 'regular' people complaining.. that they just shut the place down. It's easier to do that than control the assholes they've created. Now some of the mods might think the assholes really are assholes, but they've let them do what they want for so long that they can't control them anymore.. and eventually the forum turns into a shitpile of "ILA"..

sorry your forum is dying like that. It's really a shame to see that happen to an established place.. but really, ILA and his 'kindred' have been given permission to do wtf they want and when you complain, you'll be mocked and threatened while they sit back and lol..all the while the mods are oblivious because they simply can't see why what their 'pets' are doing is so wrong..

[Howey]

the... "If you repeat what was said, even if it's to tell me.. your the one who's going to get punished".. HAHA!

Huh. I was banned twice exactly for that!

Ok with y'all if I move this to general discussion to give Grind a chance to reply ?

[paddymcdougall]

A). the 'regular' posters just fade out because the bullies have just been given public permission to carry on. It wasn't them who was chided publicly for their behavior it was the one complaining.. the 'complainers' learn quickly that they're in the minority, the mods don't care and things are going to get worse..and eventually the forum turns into a shitpile of 'ILA'

B). the Mods get so sick of the 'regular' people complaining.. that they just shut the place down. It's easier to do that than control the assholes they've created. Now some of the mods might think the assholes really are assholes, but they've let them do what they want for so long that they can't control them anymore.. and eventually the forum turns into a shitpile of "ILA"..

sorry your forum is dying like that. It's really a shame to see that happen to an established place.. but really, ILA and his 'kindred' have been given permission to do wtf they want and when you complain, you'll be mocked and threatened while they sit back and lol..all the while the mods are oblivious because they simply can't see why what their 'pets' are doing is so wrong..

Jeez, you are absolutely right. That's exactly what happened after ILA's foul language was just "warned". Then the mods got all defensive about those of us who were offended.

And now the a*holes rule and are patting themselves on the back about how "good" they've become. But I bet if a liberal woman went on there, they'd be back to the same kind of nastiness.

Oh - and did we mention the mods have a lot of people on ignore so they can't see the offending posts? How can a mod do their job if they have a bunch of people on ignore?

Howey, guess I don't care if you move it. Let me just state that I currently log in to JPP mainly for PMs; and I check out one or two threads on the state of the board. So in case Grind claims I can't stay away - he can rest assured I'm not going into any topic threads unless I hit on one by accident. I'm just curious about the good posters who have stayed and what they're thinking.

[Howey]

Here's another one!


http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?57233-Obamas-cavalcade-of-fail-continues


Oh gee...I guess the republican shutdown had NOTHING to do with this??

[Howey]

Here's another one!


http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?57233-Obamas-cavalcade-of-fail-continues


Oh gee...I guess the republican shutdown had NOTHING to do with this??

Remember when they claimed the shutdown would have no effect on the economy?