How out of touch and crass can one party and their media be?

[ekg]

seriously, wtf is wrong with people? Is this the kind of 'news' that make them stand up and salute? even when it is they who are affected just like the ones in the story?

this was the drudge headline..

White House says sob stories pouring in...

?sob story? really? that's kind of a 'dickish' way to describe middle America's hardships isn't it? But wait until you read the actually headline for the story on cns.com


'Waa, No Pizza Night': Sad Stories Roll In at Request of Obama White House
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/waa-no-pizza-night-sad-stories-roll-request-obama-white-house


it ends with what can only be more 'red-meat' for this delusional party..

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is this what makes people on the left stand up and cheer? Is this the kind of 'truth reporting' they want? "waa, no pizza night" for middle Americans, but hey.. give Warren Buffet another 10 million..

aren't more people affected by the loss of that $40 than will get that 10 million in tax breaks for the 1%?

so how do they go against themselves this way? Don't they know that 'waa' is directed at them?

[uselesslegs]

It all has to reach a zenith.  It will have to reach a point where even the most die hard, seemingly indestructible ideological reality is finally breached...and even then...every conceivable effort will be made, by the most rigid, to find something that will explain the breach as anything other than what it actually is.

Over half of the country could be living in the streets and I guarantee you, the devout will find every other reason, than the real one, as to why this is happening.  This is tantamount to asking someone to change or abandon their religious convictions.  It would be like waking up in the morning and seeing Superman actually flying past your window...everything about your reality just changed in that instant.  Everything that makes your world work for you, just exploded and your coping mechanisms would go into overdrive and incorporate it...or...make it something other than what it is.

Some people have a very, VERY, fragile reality.  It does not incorporate any other realities.  It does not have the ability to reshape itself accordingly to something that would put their reality in disarray.

Some people say, "God damnit!" and move along.  Some people say, "God damnit!" and fight tooth and nail to make sure that "God damnit!" was ANYTHING OTHER than the slice of reality they just got.

There's more Dems than I'd like to admit in on this new corporate world mentality, my reality accepted that. It left a bitter taste, but I've incorporated it and if it's within my voting power, I will try to change that.  There's a shit load of Repubs in on this new corporate world mentality, my reality accepted that and the same applies to them as well.  I will not vote for a Dem, simply because they're a Dem and I will not vote against a Repub, simply because they are a Repub.  The dividing line is blurred and straight up and down votes, based on my ideological views, will do nothing to help...I can no longer be guilty of being a lazy voter. I have to step my game up.  We all do.

We've let fringe mentality, and what it brings because of apathy and messaging, direct our reality over the past 30 years and the reality it introduced, is destroying us.  To me, party lines don't matter anymore.  The primary question I ask myself now is, "Are you fucking me?" "Are you fucking my friends, neighbors and relatives by your efforts or indifference?", if so...you're gone.  I don't give a shit.  

If your empathy is lacking, you're gone.  If you see the jobless as lazy assholes, you're gone.  If you've uttered one thing that used stereotyping to validate a view, you're gone.  If you defend the way things CURRENTLY are, you're gone.  If you see a homosexual as a threat to society, you're gone.  If you think a student should be in serious debt to educate themselves for our countries betterment, as a *character builder*, you're gone.  If you defend a 3 percent tax raise on the wealthiest, while hundreds of millions are watching their nation crumble around them, you're doubly fucking gone.

[Howey]

seriously, wtf is wrong with people? Is this the kind of 'news' that make them stand up and salute? even when it is they who are affected just like the ones in the story?

this was the drudge headline..

White House says sob stories pouring in...

?sob story? really? that's kind of a 'dickish' way to describe middle America's hardships isn't it? But wait until you read the actually headline for the story on cns.com


'Waa, No Pizza Night': Sad Stories Roll In at Request of Obama White House
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/waa-no-pizza-night-sad-stories-roll-request-obama-white-house


it ends with what can only be more 'red-meat' for this delusional party..

is this what makes people on the left stand up and cheer? Is this the kind of 'truth reporting' they want? "waa, no pizza night" for middle Americans, but hey.. give Warren Buffet another 10 million..

aren't more people affected by the loss of that $40 than will get that 10 million in tax breaks for the 1%?

so how do they go against themselves this way? Don't they know that 'waa' is directed at them?

Sure...no pizza night. But what about the guy who said this?

"$40 less a paycheck means I will have to pick between my insulin and the water bill. It means never being able to see my doctor -- even though I have insurance."

As far as CNS "News" is concerned, my distaste for them goes back years. Remember when Sam and lilMike tried to pass them off as a legitimate news source?

They're scumbags just like Breitbart.

[ekg]

They're scumbags just like Breitbart.

yes, I know that.. Drudge uses them alot and subsequently, I read drudge less.. but they are heavily "Right" read, and that's my issue.. how does the right not understand they are who is being 'waaa' at?

[lil mike]

So because of this:

"$40 less a paycheck means I will have to pick between my insulin and the water bill. It means never being able to see my doctor -- even though I have insurance."

Does that mean that we are never going to restore the Social Security tax?  I'm puzzled about this.   FICA is the sole source of Social Security funding, unless there are funds going into the Social Security fund to replace the amount not going due to the tax cut.  But if that's the case, why have FICA funding at all?

[Howey]

So because of this:

Does that mean that we are never going to restore the Social Security tax?  I'm puzzled about this.   FICA is the sole source of Social Security funding, unless there are funds going into the Social Security fund to replace the amount not going due to the tax cut.  But if that's the case, why have FICA funding at all?

C'mon...you know FICA is merely a tax on the poor and the republicans favorite tax to increase when they need to fund wars and stuff. Just as Reagan. How many times did he increase it? Two? Three? Four?

SS would be booming fifty years from now if it wasn't for Dubya stealing it's funds to pay for pet projects. Like two wars.

How 'bout we just get rid of the FICA tax and replace it with a tax on billionaires?

[lil mike]

C'mon...you know FICA is merely a tax on the poor and the republicans favorite tax to increase when they need to fund wars and stuff. Just as Reagan. How many times did he increase it? Two? Three? Four?

SS would be booming fifty years from now if it wasn't for Dubya stealing it's funds to pay for pet projects. Like two wars.

How 'bout we just get rid of the FICA tax and replace it with a tax on billionaires?

That's what I mean!  Democrats protected FICA for decades, now, they want to throw the whole "social insurance" concept in the dumper!  Interesting they've protected that for so long and now are going to do a 180 and proclaim SS a welfare program.  I will enjoy the flip flops this is going to cause Democrats.

[ekg]

So because of this:

Does that mean that we are never going to restore the Social Security tax?  I'm puzzled about this.   

I think we can restore it when we restore the wealthy back to Clinton era levels  or a little while after that, let the little guy get on his feet a little more... that's the complaint here,  the GOP is doing all they can to make sure those wealthy individual don't go from 37 to 39%.. at the cost of taking $40 from people who need that money to live..and mocking their poverty to boot..

[Howey]

That's what I mean!  Democrats protected FICA for decades, now, they want to throw the whole "social insurance" concept in the dumper!  Interesting they've protected that for so long and now are going to do a 180 and proclaim SS a welfare program.  I will enjoy the flip flops this is going to cause Democrats.

As opposed to what your comrades want to do? Just give the old farts a check for $10 and throw them to the wolves? Or is it vultures?

But I see where you're going. From a review of the right wing blogs out there, this is merely another Circle Jerk of Attribution™.

Dems don't want to "throw the whole "social insurance" concept in the dumper!". Aside from the fact that they want to save it from the evil, greedy grubs of Rand Paul and the insurance companies, they also want to make it a viable program that won't have the elderly living in fear.

Of course that takes cooperation from your comrades, and we just won't get that, will we?

[lil mike]

I think we can restore it when we restore the wealthy back to Clinton era levels  or a little while after that, let the little guy get on his feet a little more... that's the complaint here,  the GOP is doing all they can to make sure those wealthy individual don't go from 37 to 39%.. at the cost of taking $40 from people who need that money to live..and mocking their poverty to boot..

I think you are on some other topic.  We were discussing FICA, not income tax rates.  But that's a dead issue anyway since the Bush tax cuts expired at the end of 2010 and the Clinton rates were restor... wait a minute!  We still have the Bush tax rates... under Obama!  How did that happen?

 

[lil mike]

As opposed to what your comrades want to do? Just give the old farts a check for $10 and throw them to the wolves? Or is it vultures?

Exhibit A on why it is so difficult to have a reasonable conversation with you.  You just throw crazy non sequiturs out.

But I see where you're going. From a review of the right wing blogs out there, this is merely another Circle Jerk of Attribution™.

Dems don't want to "throw the whole "social insurance" concept in the dumper!". Aside from the fact that they want to save it from the evil, greedy grubs of Rand Paul and the insurance companies, they also want to make it a viable program that won't have the elderly living in fear.

Of course that takes cooperation from your comrades, and we just won't get that, will we?

I used to get a Social Security "statement" each year telling me what I was do to get based on the FICA I had paid through a working life time. Interestingly, this year I didn't get one.  So instead of me paying for Social Security insurance, you've stated that I'm not really paying for that, the rich should foot the bill.  So if I don't have to pay for it, I would guess it's really just a welfare program.

I love the way you are totally changing the intent of social security on a dime for some sort of political point!

[Howey]

I used to get a Social Security "statement" each year telling me what I was do to get based on the FICA I had paid through a working life time. Interestingly, this year I didn't get one.

Yeah. Shame on Obama for trying to save money!

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So instead of me paying for Social Security insurance, you've stated that I'm not really paying for that, the rich should foot the bill.

I don't believe that's what I said.

But that's a dead issue anyway since the Bush tax cuts expired at the end of 2010 and the Clinton rates were restor... wait a minute!  We still have the Bush tax rates... under Obama!  How did that happen?

 

Damn. You and your comrades are sure wanting to raise taxes, huh? Wasn't last year's extension of the Bush tax cuts a compromise?

[lil mike]

Yeah. Shame on Obama for trying to save money!

I don't believe that's what I said.

Damn. You and your comrades are sure wanting to raise taxes, huh? Wasn't last year's extension of the Bush tax cuts a compromise?

If it was a compromise, than President Bush got everything he wanted...

I mean Obama! 

[Howey]

If it was a compromise, than President Bush got everything he wanted...

I mean Obama! 

So why do you want to raise everyone's taxes?

Sheesh!

[ekg]

I think you are on some other topic.  We were discussing FICA, not income tax rates.  But that's a dead issue anyway since the Bush tax cuts expired at the end of 2010 and the Clinton rates were restor... wait a minute!  We still have the Bush tax rates... under Obama!  How did that happen?

 

because the GOP held the middle-class tax cut hostage in order to get the total Bush cut for the wealthy..

and you think that's funny? and how your  leaders should act? (  )

figures.. funny how you have no problem with a deficit as long as the wealthy benefit, but O'lordy jesus, if a nigrah got a food stamp, you'd be raising all hell wouldn't you....