Newt's Plan For Poor School Kids

[FooFa]

Gingrich is actually vocalizing the new agenda in ed. That is training rather than educating.

[Howey]

Gingrich is actually vocalizing the new agenda in ed. That is training rather than educating.

Not really. He just understands that the uneducated are more likely to vote Republican than Democrat. For the same reason those who watch Fox news are less aware than people who don't watch TV at all...

[FooFa]

Not really. He just understands that the uneducated are more likely to vote Republican than Democrat. For the same reason those who watch Fox news are less aware than people who don't watch TV at all...

It baffles me how anybody can be staunchly for one over the other. Maybe you can enlighten me . Obama has not only continued every single Bush era program and policy but expanded the PA. Everyone knows the real unemployment rate is well into double digits, he filled the cabinet with Goldman Sachs and Monsanto former employees(after pre election claims to the contrary), claims that the country is hungry for a civilian military counterpart to the military, to name a few of the many examples of hypocrisy, not to mention that the same financiers backed McCain that backed him.

[uselesslegs]

It baffles me how anybody can be staunchly for one over the other. Maybe you can enlighten me . Obama has not only continued every single Bush era program and policy but expanded the PA. Everyone knows the real unemployment rate is well into double digits, he filled the cabinet with Goldman Sachs and Monsanto former employees(after pre election claims to the contrary), claims that the country is hungry for a civilian military counterpart to the military, to name a few of the many examples of hypocrisy, not to mention that the same financiers backed McCain that backed him.

Take money out of politics, and a majority of this goes away.  No ones beholden, no one HAS to cow tow to big money to run for office.  To many favors are tied to politics, exceedingly so now.  Even someone who might want to "fix" things, is at the mercy of their political coffers.

[FooFa]

Take money out of politics, and a majority of this goes away.  No ones beholden, no one HAS to cow tow to big money to run for office.  To many favors are tied to politics, exceedingly so now.  Even someone who might want to "fix" things, is at the mercy of their political coffers.

*like*

[ekg]

It baffles me how anybody can be staunchly for one over the other. Maybe you can enlighten me . Obama has not only continued every single Bush era program and policy but expanded the PA.

true, but he has also done some 'leftish' things as well.. has he done enough? will he do more? That is that billion dollar election question isn't it..

[Howey]

true, but he has also done some 'leftish' things as well.. has he done enough? will he do more? That is that billion dollar election question isn't it..

Obama can only do so much without the republicans screwing up the process of lawmaking with an archaic and overused filibuster process.

Anyone who is stupid to think he doesn't want to close Guantanamo or end other policies is crazy.

[FooFa]

Obama can only do so much without the republicans screwing up the process of lawmaking with an archaic and overused filibuster process.

Anyone who is stupid to think he doesn't want to close Guantanamo or end other policies is crazy.

Now Howey...He reversed himself on everything. He authorized sending Gitmo 'detainees' to other locations as well as claiming executive authority to apprehend any citizen with no more rights than an Iraqi.

http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2011/04/25/wikileaks-reveals-secret-guantanamo-files-exposes-detention-policy-as-a-construct-of-lies/

I was fooled along with most people but if he had been serious he could have accomplished a hell of a lot in the first 6 months when he had a majority.

[lil mike]

Funny. I always thought kids went to school to learn and gain social skills. When I grew up, we did chores at home to learn responsibility. But, of course, you guys didn't have that problem, don't you. I'm sure all respectable Republican children had illegal Mexican maids to clean their rooms and illegal Mexican gardeners to rake the leaves. 

Could you have made a more ridiculous response?

Really.  I want to know if it's possible. I challenge you to make a more ridiculous response than the one you just made!

[betteroffhere]

Not really. He just understands that the uneducated are more likely to vote Republican than Democrat. For the same reason those who watch Fox news are less aware than people who don't watch TV at all...

couldn't it be said...

people who watch any news are more likely to be influenced than those who watch zero news from mainstrean sources ?

and aren't the uneducated less likely to vote in the first place ?...like cattle they should be

hearded in one direction over the other for self preservation of course...


How do we control the honesty of the influence ?

[ekg]

Now Howey...He reversed himself on everything. He authorized sending Gitmo 'detainees' to other locations as well as claiming executive authority to apprehend any citizen with no more rights than an Iraqi.

http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2011/04/25/wikileaks-reveals-secret-guantanamo-files-exposes-detention-policy-as-a-construct-of-lies/

I was fooled along with most people but if he had been serious he could have accomplished a hell of a lot in the first 6 months when he had a majority.

I don't know if I consider myself 'fooled' or just...  well you want things, say things, promise things, but when you get into the job you find out that things aren't as easy as you thought and/or promised. Do I like GITMO? Nope, but we were handed a burning bag of shit from the Bush admin and now if we smack it to put it out, we'll get shit all over us.. so, the only thing we can do is let it burn itself out.

IOW, we're stuck holding people who never should have been held in the 1st place because to release them now would really fuck us up.. so, we're stuck holding Bush's bag of shit. The ones we can release, we are..judiciously, the ones we can't? we're stuck with Thanks to the last guy who fucked everything up for the rest of us.

and unfortunately for us and Obama, that can be said for quite a few things.. but also unfortunate, is that we and he, cannot say that out loud without getting eye-rolls and snark.. *shrug*

[betteroffhere]

I don't know if I consider myself 'fooled' or just...  well you want things, say things, promise things, but when you get into the job you find out that things aren't as easy as you thought and/or promised.

interesting....a card played by both side when needed...good job


the difference is...


asking a guy or gal what they would like or do, over the actual way in which change occurs are not applicable...

but are great at misleading the populas...

most people miss this part and don't understand the inner workings of how government operates according to the constitution...

but they love a good show....and buy the hype...


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[FooFa]

I suppose ekg that I'm just through with the excuses and the never ending blame of what one or another was left with from previous administrations. I could buy it once or twice but it seems to me that if you imagined the president's from LBJ forward on a timeline with corresponding policies and foreign policy from a bird's eye view;you would see one march, one agenda and mission that has been plotted out by still in power folks like Kissinger.

[Howey]

I suppose ekg that I'm just through with the excuses and the never ending blame of what one or another was left with from previous administrations. I could buy it once or twice but it seems to me that if you imagined the president's from LBJ forward on a timeline with corresponding policies and foreign policy from a bird's eye view;you would see one march, one agenda and mission that has been plotted out by still in power folks like Kissinger.

Do not go there.

[Howey]

Seems like the guy who paid millions for his trophy wife's diamonds (hon...I hope you have them hidden in case you come down with the Big C), is doubling down on his hatred for children.

Presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich did not back away from his recent comments suggesting young children should be allowed to work.

“Really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits for working and have nobody around them who works. So they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday,” Gingrich told more than 500 employees inside the Nationwide Insurance lunchroom.

Meanwhile, the poor little buggars are criminals if they don't sweep the floors...

“Fine,” he said in Iowa’s capital city during a two-day swing of the state, “So what if they became assistant janitors and their job was to mop the floor and clean the bathroom and you pay them?”

He also suggested a couple of other possibilities for putting young kids to work: “But what if you paid them part time in the afternoon to sit in the clerical office and greet people that came in. What if you paid them to work as the assistant librarian?” Gingrich said. Adding, “I’d pay them as early as was reasonable and practical.”

“They have no habit of ‘I do this and you give me cash’... unless it's illegal,” he said Thursday in the Hawkeye State.